China to Philippines: Let's sit down and talk

中国对菲律宾说：让我们坐下来谈谈
2015-7-7

MANILA, Philippines - China is "still open and will be open forever" to bilateral negotiations to settle its territorial spat with the Philippines, Chinese Ambassador Zhao Jianhua said yesterday.
Zhao's pronouncements came a day before a United Nations tribunal proceeds to determine whether it has jurisdiction over a case filed by Manila contesting Beijing's massive claim in the West Philippine Sea and South China Sea.
A high level Philippine delegation is now in The Hague to present the country's position.
"I think the best is to sit down bilaterally to talk. We need to resume our bilateral negotiation without any condition. I think this is the best way that we can discuss how to peacefully settle these disputes," Zhao told journalists at his official residence after the Chinese government donated books to the National Library of the Philippines, gmanetwork.com reported.
The Permanent Court of Arbitration, a five-man panel of judges, will start hearing oral arguments on the issue of jurisdiction until July 13.
"Our door for bilateral consultation and negotiation is still open and will be open forever," Zhao said.
The Philippine team is represented by Solicitor General Florin Hilbay and will be assisted by Paul Reichler of the Washington-based law firm Foley and Hoag.

信息来自菲律宾马尼拉。
"中国仍然开放，也将一直开放"的对待有边界争端的双边谈判，中国驻菲律宾大使赵鉴华如是说。赵大使的发言比联合国法庭裁定其自身是否对中国菲律宾争议海域拥有仲裁权来的要早一天。与此同时一个高水准的菲律宾代表团正在向海牙国际法庭展示着菲律宾的相对位置。
"我认为最好的是两方坐下谈判。我们需要无条件的恢复双边谈判。这是我认为的最好方法,我们可以讨论如何和平解决这些纠纷"，中国政府向菲律宾国家图书馆的捐赠图书结束后，赵大使在他的大使官邸对记者说。
直到7月13日，五人组成陪审团的海牙仲裁法庭将会听取口头的管辖权陈述。
"协商对话的大门始终打开，也会永远打开"，赵大使说。
菲律宾的代表团由副司法部长 Florin Hilbay带队，也会接受来自华盛顿特区的律师事务所的司法援助。

 

Ready
Meanwhile, Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman Charles Jose said the Philippines is ready for the start of proceedings at The Hague.
"We can't talk much about it, but we are prepared for it," Jose told reporters yesterday.
In a position paper submitted last December, China questioned the jurisdiction of the international arbitral court over the case. The Permanent Court of Arbitration and not the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea is handling the case. With Beijing's refusal to take part in the proceedings, automatic arbitration has to be resorted to as required by rules.
The DFA said the Philippines would stick closely to facts in presenting its case against China.
"We try to make it as factual as possible on the way we see things, the objective of that is to raise awareness of our people on this very important issue," Jose said.
"If we get a favorable ruling from tribunal, to us it is a fundamental first step towards a peaceful and rules-based approach towards resolving the overlapping maritime claims in the South China Sea," he added.

——严阵以待的菲律宾
与此同时，菲律宾外交部发言人约瑟认为对即将开始的海牙仲裁菲律宾已经准备妥当。"不能说太多，但是菲律宾已经严阵以待了"，在昨天报告中约瑟这样讲。根据去年12月份递交的意见书，中国对于国际仲裁法庭的权限进行了质询，因为是永久仲裁法庭而非是国际法庭在处理案件。随着北京方面的拒绝参与审理，根据原则来说将会采取自动仲裁。
新闻发言人说将会深入阐述案件，以期对抗中国。"我们将以事实为依据，在此种重大事件里唤起公民的觉醒。如果能获得有利裁决，这便会是我们寻求和平、有序解决主权争议海域的基础性一步"。

Jose admitted that the DFA is not yet aware of the procedures of the hearing, although it does not expect China to make a presentation.
"Based on the position paper China submitted last December, it is questioning the jurisdiction of the arbitration tribunal over the case. Based on those points, China does not want to participate," Jose explained.
China has repeatedly criticized the Philippines for initiating international arbitration instead of holding bilateral talks to resolve the territorial dispute.
On Thursday last week, China called the case filed by the Philippines a "political provocation," a claim denied by Malaca?ang.
The DFA noted it was the Philippines that first initiated bilateral talks with China to resolve the issue, to no avail.
"We already tried to pursue bilateral talks way back in 1995 concerning the Mischief Reef. We tried to sit down with them. We exhausted all reasonable efforts to solve the issue," Jose stressed.
He also lamented that China was always setting impossible conditions for bilateral talks, and "they always say we have to recognize their indisputable sovereignty" over the disputed areas.
The DFA noted that the territorial dispute has to be settled by the six claimant countries, including China. A ruling on the Philippine case by the arbitral tribunal is seen to provide claimant countries a clearer direction in resolving the dispute.
Asked if China can be made to follow the tribunal's ruling, Jose emphasized there is no international law enforcement agency that can compel China to abide by the order.
"There is no international police to enforce. We would be relying on the international community," Jose said.
"We don't expect the tribunal to come out immediately with a decision. It may take a couple of months," he added.

发言人承认外交部还没完全理清审讯程序，由于并不对中国能如期参加法庭陈述有所期待。"根据去年12月中国递交的意见书，中国还在纠结仲裁法庭对海洋事务的审讯权力，他们并不想参与到此次审讯中。"
中国曾多次批评菲律宾发起国际仲裁,而不是举行解决领土争端的双边会谈。上周星期四,中国称菲律宾提出的案件充满了"政治挑衅"味道。菲律宾外交部指出这是菲律宾第一次与中国为了解决争端的双边谈判,但并无成效。
"我们已经试图追求双边会谈回到1995年在美济礁的事项上来。我们尝试着和他们坐下来。我们用尽所有的努力来解决这个问题,"菲律宾外交部发言人还感叹中国总是为双边会谈设置不可能的障碍,"（在争议地区）他们总是说我们必须认识到他们的无可争辩的主权"。菲律宾外交部指出,包括中国在内的6个国家必须解决领土争端。由海牙仲裁法庭裁决菲律宾案例被视为是提供了一条解决争端的清晰思路。
在被问到中国是否会遵守判决，发言人强调并没有国际法强制执行机构能对中国加以强迫。"没有任何国际警察执行判决，我们所能依赖的也只有国际社会（舆论）了。也不期望判决能马上下来，这也许需要几个月时间。"
llingstone888 ? 2 hours ago
Bilateral negotiations for China means let's continue talking while we continue expanding and building.

双边谈判对中国来说就是，一边谈判，一边扩张和建设

ReneV ? 2 hours ago
we should all welcome the desire for the chinese communists to talk... we will talk them with them in front of the United Nations International Court.

我们很欢迎同中国共党交涉。。。要在国际法庭前谈判

Oorah! ? 21 minutes ago
Two notorious trolls are trying their luck again here after being continuously moderated at another forum, PurpleDaisy13 & Hi banana republic! But most of the posters here reads also those other forums & are aware of their notoriety!

民主女神 ?Oorah! ? 19 minutes ago
they are called Wu Mao, paid government people of CHINA to monitor, confuse , influence, dissuade and conduct psychological warfare on forums.
Oorah! ?民主女神 ? 18 minutes ago
HAHAHAHA! They have this belief that they're convincing anyone! Cheers!
Oorah

两个著名的弱智在别的论坛气氛缓和了之后又到这里浑水摸鱼。就是PurpleDaisy13 和Hi banana republic这两个货！本论坛和别的论坛的读者警惕这二位的脑残

民主女神 回复楼上
这些就是所谓的5毛。拿着中国政府的公粮，对我们论坛施加影响，进行心理战。
Oorah 回复楼上
Haha 5毛们已经相信他们有理有据使人信服！干杯
民主女神

PRESSURE JUST SUNK IN TO CHINA, THEY WANT US TO BACK OUT OF HAGUE WHICH WILL FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW.
CHINA WE DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORIST, REMOVE ALL YOUR BOATS AND BOOTS ON PHILIPPINE TERRITORIES NOW!!!
My Filipino compatriots do your part, remember that every product you buy that has "MADE in CHINA" or from Chinese Businesses are supporting the Economic
and Military power of China to oppress the Philippines.
Boycott Made in China Products NOW!!! Deny Service, Purchase and Selling
products to all Chinese Nationals you encounter today. Do your part or
else you will wake up one day being a slave of the Chinese.
Mabuhay ang Lahing Kayumanggi, Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!!!!!

中国已经感受到了压力，他们想让我们诉诸法律的行动就此罢手。我们不和中国恐怖分子谈判，所有中国船只和中国产的鞋子滚出菲律宾！！各位菲律宾同胞尽自己的一份力，请记住，你所购买的每一个产品、每个"中国制造"，来自于的中国企业都支持中国的军事力量压迫菲律宾。抵制中国制造的产品！！！拒绝向中国侨民服务，拒绝购买和销售中国产品。尽你自己的一份力，否则你将有一天醒来，变为中国人的奴隶！

Hi banana republic ? an hour ago
We don't expect the tribunal to come out immediately with a decision. It may take a couple of months - C'MON
It will take days and Philippines hope will be dashed....no jurisdiction...
simple facts : no country can make their claim base on the EEZ (international water)that is overlapping with many countries..... Dumbass

"菲律宾也不期望判决能马上下来，这也许需要几个月时间。"菲律宾希望破灭前会耗费点时间。简单的事实就是这个法庭越界了。没有国家能根据经济专属区来宣示主权，这会导致各个国家海域范围的重叠。蠢货

SC Kang ? 31 minutes ago
The problem for the Philippines is that they made a loud demand and for anyone that know being humiliated in public, won't accept a quick let's talk. That's being absolutely stupid by the Philippines from a protocol and relational stand point.
Do I agree with the Chinese moves to limit freedom of navigation and flight? No, not at all. They need to be met with a proper and tough show of force and resolve on the negotiating end. The Chinese will do power plays and now, there's flights and boats observing them.
Pedro_Penduko708 ?SC Kang ? 24 minutes ago
China thinks they can scare the shiyet out any asian country. That's where they are wrong.
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SC Kang ?Pedro_Penduko708 ? 20 minutes ago
China is wrong about who they F' ing with the United States in their corner in the Philippines. By themselves, the Vietnamese has popped China in the nose and the Chinese ran. The South Koreans and Japanese have flown through the supposed Chinese Air Zones and the Chinese haven't said anything. The U.S. 7th Fleet and the Asian Nations will make the Chinese come to heel.
Hi banana republic ?SC Kang ? 18 minutes ago
the US 7 fleet can't even attack and defence themselves in South China Sea.....HAHAHAHA
Have U workout the ranch of the fighter jet yet ?
SC Kang ?Hi banana republic ? 13 minutes ago
They would make your junks go up in flames. I love those Tomahawk Cruise missiles targeting specific places or craft. Then we can send you to your god, CHAIRMAN MAO, who is burning in h3ll forever with Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pt, Kim il-sung, Ceausescu, and all those bad atheists.
SC Kang

问题是菲律宾提出的响亮要求其实每个人都知道这是一种当众羞辱，不会被快速接受。菲律宾提出的立场和草案完全就是蠢。你觉得我会同意中国限制航班和飞行自由的举措吗？不，完全不。中国应该在谈判中被适当的强硬对待。现在中国人还是会玩硬的，所以派船派飞机继续监视他们。
Pedro_Penduko708 回复楼上
中国人错就错在只会会恐吓亚洲各国

SC Kang 回复楼上
中国人的错误在于在他们国家边上挑衅驻扎菲律宾的美国人。越南人已经打破了中国人的鼻子，赶跑了中国人（越南反华抗议？）就连日本韩国飞越中国领空，中国人也没吱声。美国第七舰队和亚洲各国会让中国站不稳的。
Hi banana republic 回复楼上
美国第七舰队在南中国海自身难保。你明白战斗机的巡航范围？

Jake ? 25 minutes ago
To make it an even playing field, the Philippines should become a nuclear state.

想公平玩游戏，菲律宾就得成为拥有核武器的国家

Pedro_Penduko708 ? an hour ago
What's there to talk about chekwa? You humiliated us by building sand castles in our backyard. OHHH .... you did that to make us realize that you are so POWERFUL that you can squash us like bugs anytime you like.
LET'S talk when you've become a little more civilized.

有什么好谈的？你们在我们后院吹沙填海、造堡垒的行为使我们蒙羞，那样做只会让我们认识到你们强大到碾我们像碾虫子一样随意。只有在你们变的文明开化一些，咱们才能坐下来谈谈。